Friday, October 14, 2011

与虎谋皮 Asking Tigers for Their Skin

This idiom is originally known as "Asking Foxes for Their Skin", but since Fox (狐, hú) and Tiger (虎, hǔ) in Chinese have very similar pronunciations, it gradually changed into "Asking Tigers for Their Skin". It refers to requesting somebody to act against his own interests.


传说在中国春秋时期,鲁国的国王想任命孔子做司法部长,但是当他向手下的大臣询问意见时,却没有一个人支持他。鲁国国王感到很困惑,就对左丘明说:“孔子是一位很有德行的人,学问也很好,但是为什么人们都反对我任命他做部长呢?



左丘明回答: “请让我先给您讲一个故事。从前有一个人, 他很喜欢穿昂贵的衣服,吃美味的食物。有一天,他想要一件狐狸皮袍子,于是就和狐狸商量说:‘把你们的毛皮送给我几张吧。’ 狐狸一听,就全逃到山里去了。又有一天,他想用羊肉做祭祀,于是去找羊说:‘请帮帮我的忙,把你们的肉割下二斤,我准备祭祀,没等他说完,羊就吓得哇哇乱叫;互相报信,一齐钻进树林里藏了起来。这样,那人过了十年也没做成一件狐狸皮袍子,五年过去了也没办法用羊肉做成一次祭祀。

 左丘明接着解释:“毫无疑问,孔子是一个诚实正直的人,但是如果他被任命做了部长,很多人就会因为做的坏事离开他们的官位,您去和这些人商量,就像问狐狸要皮,问羊要肉一样,您怎么能期望他们支持您呢?

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Translation:
Legend has it that in the Spring and Autumn period of China, the king of the state of Lu wanted to appoint Confucius as the Attorney General, but no one supported him when he asked his ministers for advice. Puzzled by this, the king said to Zuo Qiu Ming (the state historian of Lu), "Confucius is a man of great character, he is also a learned man, but why does everybody object to my making him the attorney general?"
Zuo Qiu Ming replied:"  please allow me to tell you a story first. Once upon a time, there is a man who loves to eat delicate food and wear expensive clothes. One day, he wants a fox fur coat, so he comes to foxes, asking them to give him their skin, at which all foxes run into the deep mountains. Another day, he wants some mutton as sacrifice, so he comes to sheep, asking them:" please help me, and cut two pounds of your flesh for me because I'm going to offer sacrifice." Before he can even finish talking, all the sheep are so scared that they all run together into the woods to hide,  screaming and nonifying each other. As a result, the man has not got a fox fur coat for ten years. Five years have passed and he still has not got mutton for sacrifice for once."
Zuo Qiu Ming went on to explain: "  there is no doubt Confucius is a honest and upright man, but if he were to be appointed as the Attorney General, many officials would lose their position for their misconduct. These officials are just those whom you ask for opinions. It is simply like asking foxes for their skin, asking sheep for their flesh. How can you expect them to support you?"


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